[Python-il] Don't copy PyWeb-IL

cool-RR cool-rr at cool-rr.com
Wed Jan 20 14:08:41 IST 2010

I'll go for "unsubscribe"

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Amit Aronovitch <aronovitch at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:
>> I am subscribed to both Python-IL and PyWeb-IL and my desktop PC does
>> not seem to display to me duplicate E-mail messages.
>> However I couldn't ignore the following classican spammers' line:
>> On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 22:52 +0200, Shai Berger wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 19 January 2010, Ilan wrote:
>> > > There's hardly any traffic in Python-IL, and although I don't
>> > > want to miss it, having to archive two copies of everything
>> > > from PyWeb-IL is annoying me.
>> >
>> > Then don't. On any sane mail client (and it looks like you're using
>> one),
>> > setting up a rule that discards python-il messages coming from PyWeb-IL
>> will
>> > take you less than it took you to write this message.
>> This is the classical line which any spammer would feed you - "use the
>> Delete key, dammit!"
>> One place where it would hurt nevertheless:
>> People who have Internet bandwidth on budget.
>> For example: me, when reading my E-mail via the cellular network.  I
>> have Internet connectivity plan for 30MB/month, and it gets used up when
>> I donwload E-mail to read when I am on the road (and far from WiFi hot
>> spots).
> But I do not understand why do you insist on having PyWeb-IL send you
> emails as well if you are subscribed to Python-IL anyways. Just go to "Edit
> my membership" in the google-group and choose no-email (which should have
> been the default IMO).
> If you use regular email client (rather than google reader/google groups)
> and want PyWeb messages to go to a different folder than python-il (I do
> not, btw), messages are clearly tagged (subject:, to:, contents) so should
> be no problem to setup the rule.
> So please be considerate to people who read E-mail via the cellular
>> network and are not willing to pay for bigger data plan.
> We should try to be considerate to everyone...
> I know from previous correspondence that there are people here who have
> much stronger objections for having to manage one extra
> mail-list-subscription (prefer smaller number of lists carrying the same
> total contents) than to having to select one non-default subscription option
> (no-email) in google groups (or maybe they give up on permission to post to
> Pyweb).
> There are Pyweb-IL readers who do not want to read the Python-IL content,
> but upto now I did *not* know of any Python-IL reader who does not want to
> read Pyweb-IL ("extra traffic" in this sense is different than the issue of
> duplicate messages), so it made sense to have Python-IL include Pyweb, but
> not the other way around.
> All that said - I'm trying to serve the public, so ***votes please***
> (well, more like opinions, since anyone is welcome to discuss or change
> their decisions).
> Until either side manages to convince the other to change their mind, I'll
> sum up:
> Ilan, Omer, Arik : unsubscribe
> Shai, Amit : keep current state
>    AA
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Ram Rachum
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