[Python-il] [pyweb-il:646] Advertisement: Hacker News IL

Shlomi Fish shlomif at iglu.org.il
Mon Jan 4 11:59:26 IST 2010


On Monday 04 Jan 2010 11:33:01 cool-RR wrote:
> Just my opinion here: I don't mind using Facebook myself, but since some
> people object to it I think we should be using something else.
> 
> What about the hackers.org.il thing that Meir said? Or at the very least we
> can start a simple mailing list by sending a message to
> hackers-il at librelist.org (Or whatever else you'd like to call it.)
> 

There's already a mailing list:

* http://www.hackers.org.il/mailing-lists/

* http://www.hackers.org.il/mediawiki/index.php/Mailing_list

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

> Ram.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Idan Gazit <idan at pixane.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:18 AM, benny daon wrote:
> > > This is fun!
> > >
> > > I think we all agree on that and that you can use facebook to
> > > organize meetings and still be a great person (but not a great
> > > hacker :-).
> >
> > You know what makes you a great hacker? The shit you make, not the
> > tools you use. That's the one and only metric that matters. All this
> > talk of "hacker values?" Just talk.
> >
> > > The only problem is trying to organize a meetup of hackers on
> > > facebook. You've picked a place that a part of the community sees as
> > > enemy turf. This view is shared by many hackers world wide and is
> > > based on the values found in the jargon file and I'm pretty sure you
> > > can't convince J. Random Hacker to join a hacker group on facebook.
> >
> > A) Stop quoting the jargon file to me like I've never heard of it. ESR
> > is great but he is not the entirety of hackerdom.
> >
> > B) I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that mpre readers of HN don't
> > give a damn about using facebook than do. Case in point: even in this
> > thread, several J. Random Hackers thought that it's a good idea and
> > didn't give a damn about facebook. *I'M* J. Random Hacker and I don't
> > care about using facebook. QED.
> >
> > I think it will be very sad if somebody decides not to come because
> > they don't like my usage of facebook to post the event information.
> >
> > > There's no way around it - if you decide to keep it in facebook
> > > you'll lose the part of the hacker community that takes the hacker
> > > values seriously.
> >
> > Right now, all I'm losing is time, being lectured about the jargon
> > file and the hacker ethic as if I've never heard of either.
> >
> > If the usage of facebook offends so much then write something better
> > or shut up. Otherwise, I'm going to stick to the hacker ethic of
> > trying to MAKE SOMETHING with the tools I have at hand.
> >
> > -I
> >
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