[Python-il] [pyweb-il:348] Re: [pyweb-il:342] Re: Discussion on pyweb-il-7
Udi h Bauman
dibaunaumh at gmail.com
Wed Aug 5 16:05:00 IDT 2009
I'm sure no personal offense was meant, let's try to maintain nice spirit...
Both arguments make sense. My 2 cents:
1) We must make sure not to be locked & confined to any "closed"
2) Any distribution channel is important. I think this meeting will have
much higher attendance rate, mainly due to Facebook.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Refael Ackermann <refack at gmail.com> wrote:
> There are some interesting points you are raising here Rani, but.
> 1) Events can't be made "visible to world".
> 2) True, but Facebook does provide several important features, unavailable
> in GoogleGroups, such as Calendar & Guest tracking, and also easy promotion
> by users. And also it is free as opposed to Meetup.com
> 3) What makes GoogleGroups more open then Facebook, as you said, you need
> to sign in to comment on the GG page as well?
> 4) I think you're directing your angst at the wrong people, ask Facebook to
> allow "visible to world" for events, and I'm sure many of the "looked out"
> issues you've experienced in the past would go away.
> To conclude I take personal offense in your comments. To me you seem like
> the snob. Here I come and give of my time and initiative, for the benifit of
> the group (as I calimed FB provides several importent features), and you
> come grumping about people "moving your cheese" (not even moving but
> sharing) from one free service to another.
> Check yourself man.
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 13:23, Rani Hod <rani.hod at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Feel free to post it wherever you see fit, but
>> (a) Facebook albums/events/stuff can be set as "visible to all"; I regard
>> people who don't check this checkbox as either computer unsavvy, which none
>> of us is, or plainly inconsiderate, which none of us is.
>> (b) Splitting a discussion over multiple places is sometimes problematic,
>> and having part of the discussion in an inaccessible location is even worse.
>> (c) More than once I've seen a migration from an open platform to facebook
>> that began exactly like this: a mere replication of the information. Then a
>> facebook group is formed, and all discussion afterwards is locked away. I
>> care enough for PyWeb-IL to try to save it from such a misfortune.
>> Please avoid the snobbish canned response "sign up to facebook, it's free"
>> as this is irrelevant. If I wanted to comment on the event, it's reasonable
>> (but often not necessary) to require an account.
>> But reading the invitation? Bah.
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:34, Ahik Man <ahik.man at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there any problem with replication of the meeting invitation in other
>>> places? Is this one
>>> example) is also not OK?
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 12:13:10 Rani Hod wrote:
>>>> > > We now have an event on Facebook. Please share.
>>>> > Oh, good.
>>>> > Another "you don't have a facebook account, therefore you don't exist"
>>>> > email.
>>>> +1 (on Rani, not Facebook).
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