[Python-il] Newbie question: localizing dates without setlocale

[Meir Kriheli]

Hi Udi,

Please reply to the list as well, so it'll be archived and accessible to
others.

Udi h Bauman wrote:
> Do you translate also the abbreviated month names, e.g., "Jan", "Feb"? I
> see it in the date filter, but it doesn't seem to work in Python code
> such as:

Yes I did:
http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/django/conf/locale/he/LC_MESSAGES/django.po#L3710

Which version of Django are you using ? Your version might not be the
most updated (can't remember when that short names translation went in -
don't think it's in 0.96), the revision of the commit is 6665.

> from time import strftime
> from django.utils.translation import gettext as _
> 
> _( strftime( "%b", ( 0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ) ) )  # should return
> localized "Feb"

Why are you doing it in the view and not the template ?  This is display
related - the code will be cleaner too.  pass the date objects to the
template and use the date filter in it.

Cheers
--
Meir Kriheli
http://mksoft.co.il

> On Feb 19, 2008 2:30 PM, Udi h Bauman <dibaunaumh at gmail.com
> <mailto:dibaunaumh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Great, I didn't know Django translates them. I just wrapped my call
>     to strftime with a call to gettext.
> 
>     I'm aware of the search engine issue, & indeed needs to fix it. Is
>     there a standard way to make the translation URL-based, or should I
>     define URL's per language?
> 
>     Thanks a lot!
>     Udi
> 
> 
>     On Feb 19, 2008 12:45 PM, Meir Kriheli <meir at mksoft.co.il
>     <mailto:meir at mksoft.co.il>> wrote:
> 
>         Udi h Bauman wrote:
>         > Hi,
>         >
>         > I have a small question which I hope one of you experts will
>         be kind
>         > enough to help with.
>         >
>         > I wrote a web page which I need to translate to different
>         languages
>         > (http://staging.daylight-savings-time.info). I need to
>         translate the day
>         > & month names, which I generate using /strftime/. I need it to
>         output
>         > the date parts for a given locale. I've tried using setlocale,
>         but it
>         > apparently affected the full python process at the web server
>         (it's a
>         > Django app) & all user sessions. Is there a way to generate
>         dates for a
>         > given locale without setlocale?
>         >
>         >
>         > Thanks a lot in advance!
>         > Udi
> 
>         One of the lookups django does to determine the current language is
>         looking in the session for the key "django_language" [1] (this
>         allows a
>         specific language for each user).
> 
>         I see that you're using the set_language view (which updates the
>         django_language var), so wheres the problem ? I've already
>         translated
>         the date and month names in Django, can't you reuse them (e.g.
>         in the
>         templates using the specific date filter) ?
> 
>         Note that the above behavior (setting and submitting the form in js)
>         prevents search engines from indexing the other language pages.
> 
>         BTW, lazy loading of translations might be problematic, if
>         that's the
>         case (and only if thats the case), try to minimize the usage of them
>         (e.g ugetgtext_lazy).
> 
> 
>         [1]
>         http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/i18n/#how-django-discovers-language-preference
> 
>         Cheers
>         --
>         Meir Kriheli
>         http://mksoft.co.il
> 
> 
>